{"id":7462,"date":"2017-08-04T18:27:25","date_gmt":"2017-08-04T18:27:25","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/?p=7462"},"modified":"2020-06-20T22:38:48","modified_gmt":"2020-06-20T22:38:48","slug":"re-adam-ruins-everything-why-the-myers-briggs-test-is-total-b-s","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/2017\/08\/re-adam-ruins-everything-why-the-myers-briggs-test-is-total-b-s\/","title":{"rendered":"re: Adam Ruins Everything &#8211; Why the Myers-Briggs Test Is Total B.S."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Adam Conover has made a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=_NQqSnkI32A\">video<\/a>\u00a0that supposedly shows that the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator is, quote, \u201ctotal BS.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The video makes the argument that the theory of Psychological Types should be discounted because it&#8217;s not scientific. But the main debunking move of the video is that the theory can&#8217;t be right because Myers and Briggs didn&#8217;t have the right credentials. Since science seeks to separate theories from the people making them, the video ends up doing what it faults Myers and Briggs for doing, that is, using non-scientific methodology to determine what is and isn&#8217;t scientific.<\/p>\n<p>Furthermore, credentialed psychologists and M.D.s had their own take on quantifying Jung&#8217;s theories around the time Myers and Briggs developed theirs. These other theories have something going for them too, but Myers and Briggs&#8217; version was just better, which is why it won out.<\/p>\n<p>Thirdly, the quote from Jung which Adam presents is misleading. It&#8217;s dishonestly stitched together from two unrelated quotes so as to give a different impression from what Jung said. In the first part of the quote, Jung says that type is complicated and hard to make out, not that people don&#8217;t have a type. In the second part of the quote (taken from a completely different place in the book), he says that ignoring his greater theory of psychological development and orientation at the expense of just sticking labels on people is a childish parlor game. Not that typology is a childish parlor game.<\/p>\n<p>Finally, Adam\u2019s video doesn\u2019t even begin to address the scientific studies on the Myers-Briggs. Those studies have repeatedly shown that while the MBTI has problems, it actually does measure four of the five dimensions of personality. In short, it has an acceptable level of validity, but no more than that. If science is your criterion, the MBTI is okay, but not great. It cannot be total BS, as Adam claims, since no scientific study has ever found this to be the case for the MBTI.<\/p>\n<p>So in short, Adam Conover presents himself as sciency, but uses unscientific argumentation. He presents a fabricated quote from Jung that is stitched together from unrelated passages, and he doesn\u2019t even enter into the matter of what the evidence on the scientific value of the Myers-Briggs actually shows.<\/p>\n<p>His video is a re-hashing of an older uninformed article on Vox.com, even repeating certain passages from that source without attribution. We have previously answered the arguments from that piece, as well as other similar MBTI \u201cdebunkings.\u201d To read these responses, check the links below.<\/p>\n<p>*\u00a0<a class=\"yt-uix-servicelink \" href=\"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/2014\/06\/drake-baers-lazy-critique-of-the-mbti\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-servicelink=\"CDIQ6TgYACITCMf02dCCvtUCFbosmwodFNkCDij4HQ\" data-target-new-window=\"True\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/2014\/06\/drake-baers-lazy-critique-of-the-mbti\/\">Drake Baer\u2019s Lazy Critique of the MBTI<\/a><br \/>\n*\u00a0<a class=\"yt-uix-servicelink \" href=\"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/2013\/09\/why-adam-grants-critique-of-the-mbti-is-useless\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-servicelink=\"CDIQ6TgYACITCMf02dCCvtUCFbosmwodFNkCDij4HQ\" data-target-new-window=\"True\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/2013\/09\/why-adam-grants-critique-of-the-mbti-is-useless\/\">Why Adam Grant\u2019s Critique of the MBTI Is Useless<\/a><br \/>\n*\u00a0<a class=\"yt-uix-servicelink \" href=\"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/2014\/07\/17-reasons-that-joseph-strombergs-critique-of-the-mbti-is-uninformed\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-servicelink=\"CDIQ6TgYACITCMf02dCCvtUCFbosmwodFNkCDij4HQ\" data-target-new-window=\"True\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/2014\/07\/17-reasons-that-joseph-strombergs-critique-of-the-mbti-is-uninformed\/\">17 Reasons That Joseph Stromberg\u2019s Critique of the MBTI Is Uninformed<\/a><br \/>\n*\u00a0<a class=\"yt-uix-servicelink \" href=\"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/2014\/10\/todd-essigs-misconstrual-of-the-mbti\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-servicelink=\"CDIQ6TgYACITCMf02dCCvtUCFbosmwodFNkCDij4HQ\" data-target-new-window=\"True\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/2014\/10\/todd-essigs-misconstrual-of-the-mbti\/\">Todd Essig\u2019s Misconstrual of the MBTI<\/a><br \/>\n*\u00a0<a class=\"yt-uix-servicelink \" href=\"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/2014\/02\/mbti-for-skeptics\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-servicelink=\"CDIQ6TgYACITCMf02dCCvtUCFbosmwodFNkCDij4HQ\" data-target-new-window=\"True\" data-url=\"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/2014\/02\/mbti-for-skeptics\/\">MBTI for Skeptics<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Adam Conover has made a video\u00a0that supposedly shows that the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator is, quote, \u201ctotal BS.\u201d The video makes the argument that the theory of Psychological Types should be discounted because it&#8217;s not scientific. But the main debunking move of the video is that the theory can&#8217;t be right because Myers and Briggs didn&#8217;t[\u2026] <a class=\"continue-reading\" href=\"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/2017\/08\/re-adam-ruins-everything-why-the-myers-briggs-test-is-total-b-s\/\">Continue Reading<i class=\"demo-icon icon-right-circled2\"><\/i><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7462","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-psychology"],"amp_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7462","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7462"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7462\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":7595,"href":"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7462\/revisions\/7595"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7462"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7462"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.idrlabs.com\/articles\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7462"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}