Typings in ‘The Question of Psychological Types’

In ‘The Question of Psychological Types‘, Jung and Hans Schmid-Guisan crafted early version of Jung’s later typology. In this manner, one may say that Jung and Schmid-Guisan both were the authors of this early typology, which we will call the Jung-Schmid-Guisan Typology (JSGT) for short. In this early version, extroversion is always identified with Feeling and introversion is always identified with Thinking.

It is important to keep in mind that with regards to his own later typology, Jung made many alterations to it afterwards. One should therefore take care not to confuse apples with oranges, and this is also the reason that none of these claims are included on the main site. However, as a matter of historical importance to the purpose of our site, we offer it to the reader below. (All page numbers are from ‘The Question of Psychological Types.’)

Person Type Typed by
Goethe E-F type (p. 52, 67) Schmid-Guisan
Nietzsche I-T type (p. 82) Jung
Plato E-F type (pp. 72-73) Schmid-Guisan
Jung I-T type Jung & Schmid-Guisan
Hans Schmid-Guisan E-F type Jung & Schmid-Guisan
Bergson E-F type (p. 41) Jung
Maria Moltzer* Extrovert (pp. 155-156) Schmid-Guisan

* (Jung’s secretary, who also discovered the Intuitive function.)

As for the question of Hans Schmid-Guisan’s type in terms of the standard Jungian typology, John Beebe identifies Schmid-Guisan as an ENFP in the book’s introduction (p. 27), while, in a recent work, V.W. Odajnyk types Schmid-Guisan as an E-F type.

8 Comments

  1. “(Jung’s secretary, who also discovered the Intuitive function.)”

    That sounds really interesting. Where can I found more about Maria Moltzer?

  2. Thanks for the link, it appears that some of the Jungian functions(N, Fi and Si) weren’t as Jungian as I thought.

    About Socrates: a question, is there even a chance that, if very convincing arguments are presented to you, you would move him to ESFJ? What would happen with the why ENTP and the Socrates vs Nietzsche infographic then? :)
    If the answer to the first question is yes, here is the conclusion of my meditation:

    1. Socrates’s style is ENTP, but his type is ESFJ.
    2. Socrates may have been deeply disturbed(not Antisocial, but Dependent, not far from Stockholm syndrome).

    If you haven’t done already so, please read “Crito” in the Benjamin Jowett translation.

    PS: Your why-ENTP post essentialy refutes the claim that he is INTP(anyway, only INTPs could type Socrates as INTP maybe due to the INTP-ESFJ attraction). Ironically, your (quite interesting)broad doctrine argument, in an interpretation different from yours, supports my claim that he may be a disturbed ESFJ.

  3. Addendum, if my style/type dichotomy wasn’t clear: for instance, Socrates is exposing ESFJ thoughts in an ENTP fashion.

  4. Socrates: Of course there’s a chance. We have identified a person as ESFJ whom nobody would believe to be so and it would hurt the credibility of the site to publish it. Yet we try to publish a blog explaining our reasoning.

    If Socrates isn’t ENTP, we’ll remove our logo from the infographic and ship it off to another site. The best arguments must come before prior commitments.

    In the Why Socrates is ENTP thing he indeed set out to falsify Keirsey’s “standard typing”. It can be hard for newcomers to appreciate but in 2009, almost no one knew about the functions and everyone thought certain things which are now discredited today (e.g. Socrates as INTP).

    Now regarding your meditation what we’re interested in is actually hosting the article as a point of view. Even if it does not convince us, the thesis is exciting. So if you can write an article that’s equally exciting, we’d love it.

  5. Thanks. I happen to be busy in the next few days, so expect the article to be done in about two weeks.

    I should send it by email, or..?

  6. Hi Admin,

    May I ask who this mystery ESFJ is? Given this is deep in the bowels of the site, I would hope you can keep your credibility largely in tact :)

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